Mitsubishi TD04-13T Turbo Rebuild


Part 3: Reassembly

  1. Lube (with engine oil) a new bearing and insert it into the compressor side.
  2. Place the new bronze seal plate spacer on top of the new bearing
  3. Install the new bronze seal plate. This should sort of snap into place. There’s only one proper orientation.
  4. Install your replacement o-ring.
  5. On the “snout” of the compressor seal insert there is a “piston ring” style ring. Remove the old one and replace it with a new one from your rebuild kit. I removed the old one forcefully by separating the ring at its gap until it came off. Installing the new ring is not that difficult when lubed; just push it down over the snout. You may have to seat a small portion of the ring at first and work around the circumference to get it seated. Here’s a picture of the ring replaced.
  6. Reassemble the compressor seal insert and compressor seal.
  7. Install the appropriate snap ring to hold the compressor seal in place.
  8. Replace the piston ring on the turbine shaft. This is almost identical to the piston ring you replaced on the snout of the compressor seal insert. I removed the old one the same way — just pry it apart until it comes off and throw it in the trash. Installing this one is a little tricky due to the groove just above the ring. I got clever and filled that groove with thread, then oiled the thread to stop the ring from seating in that groove as I pushed it down to the proper groove.
  9. Reassemble the turbine side by lubing (oil) the outside perimeter of a new bearing, lubing (oil) the turbine shaft itself, sliding the bearing onto the turbine shaft, and inserting the turbine shaft with bearing into the turbine side of the CHRA until it snaps into place. You should be able to freely spin the turbine at this point.
  10. Slide the compressor wheel back onto the shaft. Line up the marks you made on the compressor wheel and the CHRA (with paint or white-out) so that when the nut is tightened, everything is lined up properly. it took me 10 tries. Tighten the nut so that it stops, then give it a little snug tighten of no more than 1/4 turn. Ideally you’d have a precise torque wrench and I’d know the torque specs for you, but I don’t. A reader has submitted his ideas for this step. They can be found on the last page of this article.
  11. Clean the oil return line’s gasket surface well and remove all old gasket material. Clean the gasket surface on the CHRA in the same manner.
  12. Reassemble the oil return line with the new gasket. Torque the bolts to 3-4 ft-lbs.
  13. Reassemble the coolant line with the new copper washers (one between the pipe and the CHRA, another between the bolt head and the pipe). Torque the bolts to 22 ft-lbs.
  14. Reattach the wastegate actuator/controller and vacuum hoses. Give the bolts a “good snug” but don’t overtighten them, as they are threaded into the semi-soft aluminum compressor housing. Remember, it’s just a bracket to hold the actuator in place. ∞

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Reader Input

Reader “Steve” submitted the following information from his rebuild. He can be contacted about the following at steveSEVENSIXTWOus@yahoo.com (replace SEVENSIXTOO with the numbers 762).

Balance-Marking and Final Reassembly Ideas.

I marked a vane on turbine side with a paint marker
(less likely to “disappear” with cleaning agents, oil
pre-lube, etc), and marked the edge of the sheet metal
cover (beneath the turbine wheel)with a needle file to
provide an index for the very tip of the marked vane.

On the compressor side, I used the needle file to
scratch an index mark on the compressor wheel, across
to the housing. I don’t think the miniscule loss of
mass from the needle file will upset the balance.

The advantage of using the needle file to mark, is the
marks won’t disappear in handling, cleaning, etc.

For reassembly, I indexed the turbine wheel and
temporarily immobilized it with a piece of duct tape.
I then applied a small glob of hot-melt glue to each
vane tip (except the index vane, to maintain
visibility of index), between the outer tip and the
sheet metal cover.

I put a 12mm ratchet wrench, socket up, on a towel on
my bench, and stood the CHRA up in it. With 12mm
ratchet set to “unscrew”, it will hold the turbine
wheel steady when the reverse-thread compressor nut is
tightened. Set up this way, you hold the 12mm socket
with one hand, and torque the compressor nut with
other…keeping the torque centered along the shaft,
to avoid bending it.

The compressor wheel tends to rotate a bit with the
nut, and I kept “overshooting” my index mark as I
approached final torque. I made a pencil mark on the
compressor housing to use as a my next start-point for
the wheel index mark—backing it up each time, by how
far I overshot the mark on the housing on the last
attempt. In this way, I was able to get my desired
torque, with the compressor wheel indexed, on my
fourth try.

In between each “tightening”, lift up the CHRA and
re-set the 12mm wrench to “tighten”, replace the
turbine end in it, to un-do the compressor nut…then
reset the 12mm “loosen”. This way, there’s never any
torque applied relative to the housing, and the
turbine wheel stays indexed the whole time, but double
check to make sure, anyway.

Removing the glue globs from the turbine side is
easily done with a fingertip, and any residual bits
come off with a toothpick.

27 Comments

  1. joe far,elo
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    is that a carbon seal or what material is it .

    thanks

  2. admin
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    Joe, I have no idea. Sorry.

  3. FanOfBoost
    Posted May 16, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    It’s essential to mark the turbine shaft, compressor nut, and compressor wheel all on the compressor side to ensure proper alignment when reassembling. If you are marking anything on the turbine blades, you are not able to align anything other than the turbine to the CHRA which doesn’t ensure any type of balance or realignment….

    What I do is use a sharp (new) blade in a utility knife or x-acto knife and score a line on the tip of the turbine shaft, compressor wheel nut, and the first lip on the compressor wheel. These should all be within ~1/2″ of each other and ensures that all three pieces will be properly realigned after assembly. By scoring you also ensure that any markings will not be removed when you use parts cleaner to cleanup the CHRA prior to reassembly.

    I will say though that if you notice ANY turbine or compressor wheel damage, you should send it out for a rebalance as there would be no way to ensure that it is within spec if any material has been removed from them.

    $.02

  4. jake
    Posted June 24, 2008 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Great write up! rebuilding my 13g asap. just wanted to know how long you have been runing this turbo with the diy rebuild? thanks alot
    Jake

  5. Posted June 24, 2008 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Hi Jake – I actually sold the turbo locally. Many months later, the owner… I think his name was Justin… actually emailed me out of the blue and said it was going strong.

  6. johhnnie
    Posted October 5, 2008 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Hi , what about the 2 rings inside the chra ,what are they for ? and why not replace them as well ?.

  7. Posted October 5, 2008 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Johhnnie : What 2 rings? O-rings? Do you have a picture?

  8. johhnnie
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    jblaine : 2 snap rings i think they are , if you look on page 2 of the rebuild , scroll down to 21:Remove the compressor-side bearing and throw it away. look at the picture and you will see 1 of the rings the other is a bit further down the chra.

  9. MARK
    Posted January 12, 2009 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    HI THERE!

    WHEN I TIGHTEN THE COMPRESSOR NUT AFTER ALIGHNING MY BALACING MARKS, THE WHEEL AND THE TURBINE SEIZE TO SPIN FREELY. wHAT AM I DOING WRONG?

    THANKS GUYS

  10. Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Mark: I would guess maybe you are over-tightening the nut. It is very very low torque spec.

  11. MARK
    Posted January 13, 2009 at 4:50 am | Permalink

    Hi Jeff.

    Thanks for the response. Withe more investigation, the piston ring pop out when torqued although when the shaft is inserted it does not really snap or click in. You ctually can see the piston ring half in and out of its groove when tightened?

    Thanks

    Mark.

  12. Posted January 13, 2009 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Mark

    Which piston ring (there are two)? I assume you mean the one on the turbine side based on your description so far.

    You shouldn’t be able to see the piston ring while tightening. Look at the 2nd picture under “Step 9″. Did you take off (or maybe it fell off) that black cover? It’s easy to reinstall, but maybe it’s missing from your setup now?

    It sounds to me like you are torque-ing (with the compressor nut) against the piston ring and dislodging it, so something in your reassembly is not correct up to that point.

    Other than that, it’s hard to say without the turbo in my hands :(

  13. MARK
    Posted January 20, 2009 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Jeff!

    Thanks for your help and time!! everything is now perfect!!

    Regards
    Mark.

  14. Posted March 6, 2009 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

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  15. Posted March 7, 2009 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Sorry, vivi, I don’t sell turbos.

  16. Spncom
    Posted June 26, 2009 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    Hi all

    Thanks for your very helpful site. I wonder if anyone can shed any light on a problem with my rebuild. The problem is that the turbine bearing does not ‘seat’ into the CHRA. It falls through into the chamber inside when very little pressure is applied.

    Thanks

  17. Sponcom
    Posted June 26, 2009 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Just to update my last comment in case it is helpful to someone. My bearing was falling through because in the rebuild kit is a spring washer . This is not mentioned on the rebuild instructions but on my turbo it had come out. As there was not one present I did not know it needed replacing. I managed to insert this and all is well. Might be worth mentioning on the site as it probably does not normally need replacing.

    Thanks

  18. james
    Posted June 29, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    anyone else come across the tin cover being loose between the turbo and the exhaust wheel? Any ideas on how to make it a tight fit? i thought of tac welding it…

  19. daniel parker
    Posted September 28, 2009 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    It seems that when tightening the compressor turbine wheel with the 8mm nut, (specified elsewhere as 15 inch pounds, plus 1/4 turn), it is being pressed against the compressor seal insert in the center of the compressor seal(pic 7,reassembly).

    While at this tourqe the wheel spins less freely, does this degree of snugness to the seal insert force all the bearings and inserts to get turned throughout along with the turbine wheels.

  20. jeff adams
    Posted May 16, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

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  21. josé márcio
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    I wanted the features of this turbo!

  22. Jason Rudd
    Posted March 18, 2011 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Ref “# Reassemble the coolant line with the new copper washers (one between the pipe and the CHRA, another between the bolt head and the pipe). Torque the bolts to 22 ft-lbs.”

    Are you sure you mean 22ft-lbs here? this squashed by banjo, luckily I had a spare oil feed line.

  23. Posted March 18, 2011 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    “luckily I had a spare oil feed line”

    >> Reassemble the oil return line with the new gasket. Torque the bolts to 3-4 ft-lbs.

    >> Reassemble the coolant line with the new copper washers (one
    >> between the pipe and the CHRA, another between the bolt head
    >> and the pipe). Torque the bolts to 22 ft-lbs.

  24. Adam
    Posted October 23, 2011 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    GREAT WRITEUP! Just did my two TD04-15Gs… the only question I have is with the torquing of the compressor side nut… if I go the 1/4 turn, the wheels are really in there snug and don’t turn easily… is that how it should be? I imagine once the oil is flowing through and the exhaust starts the assembly turning it will loosen up a bit… but want to make sure I am not over-tightening.

  25. Posted October 23, 2011 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Adam, the wheels should spin smoothly after reassembly. The simple test is to spin the shaft + wheels with your thumb and pointer finger like you would a toy top, while the turbo is in the normal horizontal position (not vertical like a toy top). If you pinch hard and give it your best spin, the wheels should spin at *least* 2 times. You should be able to, without any real effort, spin the wheels with your fingers. That final nut is tricky, but important to get right. I had to do mine several times at the end of assembly to where I was happy with it.

    No guarantees, just the write-up :)

  26. David Tearle
    Posted November 2, 2011 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    where can I purchase an exploded view drawing and parts list for my Mitsubishi TD04H-13C-6?

  27. Posted November 3, 2011 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    Sorry, David, I have no idea. I’ve never seen such a thing, though surely Mitsubishi has a document. I suspect it’s an internal company document though.

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