Mitsubishi TD04-13T Turbo Rebuild


Part 2: Disassembly

  1. Remove all hose clamps and hoses. There should be hoses going to the wastegate actuator and compressor housing. Put these in your parts container as they will be reused.
  2. Remove the wastegate actuator (2 12mm bolts and 1 retaining “E” clip)
  3. Remove the clamp around the CHRA (1 10mm bolt). I removed the bolt and nut completely from the clamp, then used a flat-head screwdriver and a hammer to gently tap the clamp loose as it was slightly siezed. Put these in your parts container as they will be reused.
  4. Remove the 17mm banjo bolts and coolant line. You may need some penetrating lubricant for this. With the line removed, thread the bolts back in to keep debris out or plug the holes with something else and put the bolts and line in your parts container. Throw away all 4 copper washers.
  5. Remove the 2 10mm bolts holding the oil return line to the CHRA. The flange may be kind of stuck to the turbo, but it does come off. Take note of all of the gasket material stuck to the surfaces. You will be cleaning this up later. Set the oil return line in your parts container, thread the bolts back into the CHRA, and plug the oil hole with something.
  6. Use WD40 or other penetrating lubricant on the turbine housing to CHRA mating area (where the clamp was in step 3). Warning: You may have to repeat this step, then try the next step, across several days to get the turbine housing loose.
  7. Very carefully and patiently, with a hard mallet or hammer, whack the turbine housing in a uniform manner around the circumference. The key point to remember here is to make sure the housing does not bind on or touch the turbine blades. Tapping did very little for me, but I tried that at first. Eventually, after a few days of lubricating, I started giving it good whacks while still checking every time to see if it had moved before giving another one.
  8. Use your big-bore snap ring pliers to remove the compressor housing from the CHRA.
  9. If, and only if, you are not sending your rebuild turbo to be checked for balance after your rebuild, you absolutely must mark both the compressor wheel and turbine relation to the center assembly with paint or White-Out. If you mark them and reassemble everything so that the marks line up, you should not need to send the turbo off for balancing. A reader has submitted his ideas on this topic which you can find as the last page in this article. You probably want to do a neater job of marking than I did.
  10. Note the odd nut on the exhaust turbine wheel… it’s my guess that it is this way because it was ground away to create balance in the assembly.
  11. Using an 8mm socket for the compressor wheel nut and whatever you can use to hold the turbine end (I used a 12mm socket that fit well enough), remove the compressor wheel nut and put it in your parts container. NOTE: the TD04L-13G’s compressor wheel nut is reverse threaded, so go clockwise.
  12. Remove the compressor wheel. It should slide right off of the shaft. Set this aside where it will not get damaged as you will not need it for awhile.
  13. Remove and discard the large rubber o-ring on the outskirts of the compressor end of the CHRA. This is visible in the picture above.
  14. Carefully push or tap the shaft and turbine wheel out of the assembly while making sure the turbine end does not pop out and fall onto the work space or you may bend the fins. The bearing can go in the garbage. Set the turbine shaft assembly aside for now.
  15. Using your smaller snap ring pliers, remove the snap ring visible on the compressor side of the CHRA. This ring holds the compressor seal in place. Set the snap ring aside in your parts container.
  16. Gently remove the compressor seal from the CHRA. You may need to use 2 small flat-head screwdrivers, one at 3 o’clock and one at 9 o’clock, to carefully pry it out. It should not require much force.
  17. You will notice at this point that the compressor seal has a metal insert. It may have fallen onto your work surface when you got the compressor seal removed. This is okay, so don’t panic. This is what the insert looks like (the flange is under the screwdriver in the picture).Here is a picture of the compressor seal and the compressor seal insert together for reference They are shown separated 2 pictures up.
  18. Remove the bronze seal plate. It should just pop out but may need a little coaxing. It is not really secured by anything substantial. Put this in your parts container or the garbage (your rebuild kit should have a replacement for this).
  19. Remove the interior o-ring from the compressor side and discard. Seen in picture above.
  20. Remove the small spacer found underneath the bronze seal plate. Put this in your parts container or the garbage (your rebuild kit should have a replacement for this as well).
  21. Remove the compressor-side bearing and throw it away.

20 Comments

  1. joe far,elo
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    is that a carbon seal or what material is it .

    thanks

  2. admin
    Posted March 4, 2008 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    Joe, I have no idea. Sorry.

  3. FanOfBoost
    Posted May 16, 2008 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    It’s essential to mark the turbine shaft, compressor nut, and compressor wheel all on the compressor side to ensure proper alignment when reassembling. If you are marking anything on the turbine blades, you are not able to align anything other than the turbine to the CHRA which doesn’t ensure any type of balance or realignment….

    What I do is use a sharp (new) blade in a utility knife or x-acto knife and score a line on the tip of the turbine shaft, compressor wheel nut, and the first lip on the compressor wheel. These should all be within ~1/2″ of each other and ensures that all three pieces will be properly realigned after assembly. By scoring you also ensure that any markings will not be removed when you use parts cleaner to cleanup the CHRA prior to reassembly.

    I will say though that if you notice ANY turbine or compressor wheel damage, you should send it out for a rebalance as there would be no way to ensure that it is within spec if any material has been removed from them.

    $.02

  4. jake
    Posted June 24, 2008 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Great write up! rebuilding my 13g asap. just wanted to know how long you have been runing this turbo with the diy rebuild? thanks alot
    Jake

  5. Posted June 24, 2008 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Hi Jake – I actually sold the turbo locally. Many months later, the owner… I think his name was Justin… actually emailed me out of the blue and said it was going strong.

  6. johhnnie
    Posted October 5, 2008 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Hi , what about the 2 rings inside the chra ,what are they for ? and why not replace them as well ?.

  7. Posted October 5, 2008 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Johhnnie : What 2 rings? O-rings? Do you have a picture?

  8. johhnnie
    Posted October 14, 2008 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    jblaine : 2 snap rings i think they are , if you look on page 2 of the rebuild , scroll down to 21:Remove the compressor-side bearing and throw it away. look at the picture and you will see 1 of the rings the other is a bit further down the chra.

  9. MARK
    Posted January 12, 2009 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    HI THERE!

    WHEN I TIGHTEN THE COMPRESSOR NUT AFTER ALIGHNING MY BALACING MARKS, THE WHEEL AND THE TURBINE SEIZE TO SPIN FREELY. wHAT AM I DOING WRONG?

    THANKS GUYS

  10. Posted January 12, 2009 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Mark: I would guess maybe you are over-tightening the nut. It is very very low torque spec.

  11. MARK
    Posted January 13, 2009 at 4:50 am | Permalink

    Hi Jeff.

    Thanks for the response. Withe more investigation, the piston ring pop out when torqued although when the shaft is inserted it does not really snap or click in. You ctually can see the piston ring half in and out of its groove when tightened?

    Thanks

    Mark.

  12. Posted January 13, 2009 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Mark

    Which piston ring (there are two)? I assume you mean the one on the turbine side based on your description so far.

    You shouldn’t be able to see the piston ring while tightening. Look at the 2nd picture under “Step 9″. Did you take off (or maybe it fell off) that black cover? It’s easy to reinstall, but maybe it’s missing from your setup now?

    It sounds to me like you are torque-ing (with the compressor nut) against the piston ring and dislodging it, so something in your reassembly is not correct up to that point.

    Other than that, it’s hard to say without the turbo in my hands :(

  13. MARK
    Posted January 20, 2009 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Jeff!

    Thanks for your help and time!! everything is now perfect!!

    Regards
    Mark.

  14. Posted March 6, 2009 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

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    How are you!
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  15. Posted March 7, 2009 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    Sorry, vivi, I don’t sell turbos.

  16. Spncom
    Posted June 26, 2009 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    Hi all

    Thanks for your very helpful site. I wonder if anyone can shed any light on a problem with my rebuild. The problem is that the turbine bearing does not ‘seat’ into the CHRA. It falls through into the chamber inside when very little pressure is applied.

    Thanks

  17. Sponcom
    Posted June 26, 2009 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Just to update my last comment in case it is helpful to someone. My bearing was falling through because in the rebuild kit is a spring washer . This is not mentioned on the rebuild instructions but on my turbo it had come out. As there was not one present I did not know it needed replacing. I managed to insert this and all is well. Might be worth mentioning on the site as it probably does not normally need replacing.

    Thanks

  18. james
    Posted June 29, 2009 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    anyone else come across the tin cover being loose between the turbo and the exhaust wheel? Any ideas on how to make it a tight fit? i thought of tac welding it…

  19. daniel parker
    Posted September 28, 2009 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    It seems that when tightening the compressor turbine wheel with the 8mm nut, (specified elsewhere as 15 inch pounds, plus 1/4 turn), it is being pressed against the compressor seal insert in the center of the compressor seal(pic 7,reassembly).

    While at this tourqe the wheel spins less freely, does this degree of snugness to the seal insert force all the bearings and inserts to get turned throughout along with the turbine wheels.

  20. jeff adams
    Posted May 16, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

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